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 08-13-2017 05:57 AM
jet1000 
 
Originally posted by 2400zr:
This is pretty amazing if true. Adding 1 million+ sq miles would make them the largest carrier by geographic coverage in the country. Having the most coverage, with the 3rd most subscribers would be amazing.


I have not seen that T-Mobile stated they would add 1 million square miles of coverage by the end of the year.

They issued a press release that said the following:

"T-Mobile has been working closely with the FCC and broadcasters and expects more than 1 million square miles of 600 MHz spectrum the Un-carrier owns to be clear and ready for deployment by year end."

https://newsroom.t-mobile.com/news-and-blogs/t-mobiles-new-600-mhz-network-rollout-begins-this-summer.htm

Clear and ready does mean deployed. Also nowhere does it say that all 1 million that will supposedly be ready be located exclusively out of T-Mobile's current coverage.

Then if you look at the FCC filing that FierceWireless based its article on, it shows a coverage map, but I don't see an estimated increase of square miles in that filing.

https://ecfsapi.fcc.gov/file/10805121056796/T-Mobile%20Ex%20Parte%2008.04.17%20FINAL.pdf

Originally posted by JimMcGraff:

I'm really not saying these things to sound like a downer but I do engineering work on many cell sites and I'm well aware of the time table it takes from going from coming out with a design for a site to actually getting on air, even from a simple upgrade standpoint.


Thank you for adding your knowledge of the industry to this thread.
 
 08-13-2017 01:06 PM
mvaar
 
Originally posted by JimMcGraff:
I haven't read the ER but that's not how this industry works. You can't plan for years for spectrum to may or may not get in the future so no they didn't have everything lined up that far back. I would guess that throughout the auction once the actual boundaries of 600MHz were defined the equipment manufacturers were able to start conceptual equipment designs and as far as I know they're probably just at the manufacturing stage now but that doesn't mean anything unless all of the front end work (leasing, engineering, permitting) is completed. If there was a statement about getting permits awhile back that's either highly unusual or just patently false because part of my job is to help obtain permits and the process for future equipment doesn't usually work like that. I'm guessing they may mean they're planning on swapping out the B12 antennas with a combined antenna under some sort of maintenance but who knows.

Bottom line is that from someone that is in the trenches any stuff you may see like that from T-Mobile with regards to how fast they're actually deploying equipment is just blowing smoke up peoples asses because they're claiming to do things faster than the process in place actually allows. It makes for good ER and PR fodder but it's not really rooted in reality.


I understood (from statements made by management since 2014) that they were planning this expansion for years with just the available spectrum. I think that they were gonna expand the footprint regardless of the progress of broadcast spectrum auction.
 
 08-15-2017 07:56 AM
 dennism3
 
Their expansion means nothing when they take away. For North Central Washington state they had no presence but had roaming on ATT with my prepaid. Now they have nothing here. As a CDN who spent some money with Tmobile I am disappointed. I will use the time up in CA this year but I used to enjoy using TM in WA also.
 
 08-15-2017 04:19 PM
Morphling27
 
Originally posted by dennism3:
Their expansion means nothing when they take away. For North Central Washington state they had no presence but had roaming on ATT with my prepaid. Now they have nothing here. As a CDN who spent some money with Tmobile I am disappointed. I will use the time up in CA this year but I used to enjoy using TM in WA also.


How does removing roaming change their native network? Roaming agreements frequently change and shouldn't be counted on as native coverage can be.

I mean ATT removed 2G and that removed areas to roam on - should you chastise T-Mobile for that too?
 
 08-15-2017 07:07 PM
2400zr 
 
Originally posted by jet1000:
I have not seen that T-Mobile stated they would add 1 million square miles of coverage by the end of the year.

They issued a press release that said the following:

"T-Mobile has been working closely with the FCC and broadcasters and expects more than 1 million square miles of 600 MHz spectrum the Un-carrier owns to be clear and ready for deployment by year end."

https://newsroom.t-mobile.com/news-and-blogs/t-mobiles-new-600-mhz-network-rollout-begins-this-summer.htm

Clear and ready does mean deployed. Also nowhere does it say that all 1 million that will supposedly be ready be located exclusively out of T-Mobile's current coverage.

Then if you look at the FCC filing that FierceWireless based its article on, it shows a coverage map, but I don't see an estimated increase of square miles in that filing.

https://ecfsapi.fcc.gov/file/10805121056796/T-Mobile%20Ex%20Parte%2008.04.17%20FINAL.pdf



Thank you for adding your knowledge of the industry to this thread.


Yeah, I saw that a few days after my post. The title "T-mobile to add 1 million+ sq miles of coverage" was click bait.
 
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