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 12-06-2017 02:09 AM
GSMinCT
 
They do their own fiber? The dark fiber that they bought a few years back? That's pretty interesting. I'd imagine in Verizon ILEC areas, they get it from Verizon, outside it could be their own, cable companies, fiber companies, or microwave off of a fiber "backbone" like I believe they did in New Hampshire where they either did their own fiber run or partnered with another company to link a whole chain of sites that they then radiated outward via microwave to cover a good chunk of the state.

I doubt they'd get fiber from RCN, as they are competitors in Boston, but anything is possible I guess.
 
 12-06-2017 03:19 AM
 GusHerb94
 
Originally posted by GSMinCT:
They do their own fiber? The dark fiber that they bought a few years back? That's pretty interesting. I'd imagine in Verizon ILEC areas, they get it from Verizon, outside it could be their own, cable companies, fiber companies, or microwave off of a fiber "backbone" like I believe they did in New Hampshire where they either did their own fiber run or partnered with another company to link a whole chain of sites that they then radiated outward via microwave to cover a good chunk of the state.

I doubt they'd get fiber from RCN, as they are competitors in Boston, but anything is possible I guess.

Yeah they technically provide their own backhaul in parts of the area with the purchase of WOW's fiber assets in Chicagoland.

They'll use AT&T if they have to, I don't see why they wouldn't use RCN. Just because they compete somewhere in the country doesn't mean they don't do business with the company. Though from what I've seen they avoid giving AT&T their business if they can help it.
 
 12-06-2017 11:39 PM
GSMinCT
 
Originally posted by GusHerb94:
They'll use AT&T if they have to, I don't see why they wouldn't use RCN. Just because they compete somewhere in the country doesn't mean they don't do business with the company. Though from what I've seen they avoid giving AT&T their business if they can help it.


That's interesting. So they are more focused on the wireless competition than being old ILEC pals that don't compete?
 
 12-07-2017 03:09 PM
 DRC72
 
Do any of the carriers still use T1s for their backhaul? I would venture to guess that a lot of sites using T1s are dwindling. Maybe CDMA only sites?
 
 12-07-2017 04:07 PM
 BentleyBeard
 
Originally posted by DRC72:
Do any of the carriers still use T1s for their backhaul? I would venture to guess that a lot of sites using T1s are dwindling. Maybe CDMA only sites?


Yes. Some Verizon LTE and CDMA/EVDO only sites are still running on T1.
 
 12-07-2017 04:40 PM
CellGeek
 
How can LTE be on T1? Think of LTE as being a very fat pipe feeding into a very thin narrow pipe. It just doesn't make sense. An LTE would be useless with a T1 backend. You would think that before upgrading a tower to LTE, the provider would first upgrade the backhaul.
 
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