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 08-13-2017 06:27 AM
Driver8666
 
Originally posted by jt325i:
Nexus 6 gets it's last security update officially from Google in September. After that no guarantees. I am waiting for the Windsor launch of LTE to get a band 66 device. I will miss the Nexus but the Pixel XL just didn't appeal to me and BYOD is not an option due to compatibility issues with Freedom. You basically have to buy one of their devices now.


Not exactly. I have an iPhone 6S Plus itching for Bands 7, 12 and 13 (one, 2 or all three, whatever bands they purchased) to get switched on. Right now it's set for LTE (yes I did switch out the SIM Card after clearing it with Corporate and that was easy), but defaults to 3G. Same crap. But if I roam, it's on LTE. I switched the plan out too as well. I went balls out. Lol. Can I use that word?

As I said before, Shaw would be wise to turn on Band 7 first, since all devices have it, and play with 66 later. However, those with iPhones will get to dictate where this ultimately goes, since Apple did not include it in the iPhone 7 or 7 Plus. The iPhone 8 is a question mark at this point. If the iPhone 8 includes it, but it has issues like the One Plus 5, you can bet the CRTC will tell Freedom to knock that **** off and also, it would definitely distance them from Apple, to the point where Apple is going to tell Shaw to **** off. If the iPhone cannot access LTE when it's switched on for those bands and not 66, you're going to see alot of yelling guaranteed. This will also mean Freedom just blew alot of money. It's probably one reason why you don't see iPhones in Freedom's stores and all Androids. I've been into Telus, Rogers and Bell stores and they all have iPhones. Once we see this happen, then Apple might be willing to open up their proprietary software to Shaw. Look up "How do I set up my compatible iPhone on Freedom" and it's right there. Certain proprietary software has not been made available to us in an official capacity. I can tell you I have no issues on iMessage, and the video portion of Facetime on the 3G network, except the audio is choppy. LTE would fix this in a heartbeat. You would not have this issue on the big 3 for sure.

As for BYOD, you are right. Users with One Plus 5 units are reporting issues with Band 66 on their phones. You are smart in sitting back, but the question is, how long will it take them to activate Band 7? If they activate Band 7, that would solve a bunch of issues for those on legacy devices. Everyone has LTE, everyone is happy.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not bashing you Droid users, but with the iPhone, iPhone users definitely will have more pull.

You're probably better off waiting to see what happens with the new spectrum.

The only 2 reasons why I'll replace my 6S Plus is if the OS cannot be updated anymore and/or the battery goes south.
 
 08-14-2017 04:57 AM
 jt325i
 
The battery on my Nexus isn't as good as it used to be. I won't switch to an Apple device as I don't care for iOS. Not crazy about Bixby/TouchWiz but currently the S8 is the leading contender for me. Problem is I can get an unlocked one for several hundred less than Freedom sells the device for but not willing to take the risk for band 66 switching issues and the lack of any WiFi calling.
 
 08-14-2017 05:29 AM
Driver8666
 
Originally posted by jt325i:
The battery on my Nexus isn't as good as it used to be. I won't switch to an Apple device as I don't care for iOS. Not crazy about Bixby/TouchWiz but currently the S8 is the leading contender for me. Problem is I can get an unlocked one for several hundred less than Freedom sells the device for but not willing to take the risk for band 66 switching issues and the lack of any WiFi calling.


iPhone users will get to dictate where LTE (spectrum and Band 66) goes with Freedom. Battery going south would be one reason I'd replace a phone, especially one where I can't remove and replace the battery. If you can't access the new spectrum (Band 7 I believe) with an iPhone, that purchase will have been a waste of money. All iPhones are considered "legacy devices". Same goes with legacy Android devices. Anything on Freedom will work with an Android, but iPhones are another ballgame altogether.

If my iPhone 6S Plus had Band 66 on it and it didn't work, there would be hell to raise. You'd have conclusive proof Freedom only lets it's devices on Band 66. Come December, I don't think that's going to matter much, and we can get rid of carrier branding. I was considering an S8, but I hate Samsungs with a passion. I tried one out in the ScotiaBank Plaza here in Toronto a couple of weeks ago when Samsung had one of their pop ups going, but "passed" on it (and yes I had my 6S Plus with me). I was using an Asus ZE552KL, but I've had so many issues with Android 6.0 and 7, that it's making a trip back up to service in October, after it bootlooped on me and I'm actually too lazy to fix it myself. By the way, it's the 4th time it's been up there, since about April of this year (purchased in November of 2016). With my iPhone? Zero issues. Not one. Plus if I have an issue with it, all I need to do is go to the Eaton Centre in Toronto and not have to mail it in, insure it for twice the amount of the phone, and pay out the *** in postage.

Another thing is that I don't have to wait for the manufacturer to release a patch or update to my phone. It all comes from iTunes. Apple pushes out the patch to all their devices, irregardless of what network they are on (if I'm wrong correct me, but Apples patches take precedence over carrier branding). Google does too on the Pixel and whatever else they have floating around. Manufacturers are a bit slow in applying security updates. This was another point in me finally drinking the milk and eating the cookies. Everyone has their own preferences, and everyone is entitled to their own opinions.

Getting a device completely unlocked from the get-go is the only way to go, or was the only way to go. WiFi calling is not happening soon, so I can forget about that. Band 66 issues are well known on non Freedom devices as you know.

Everyone jumped on getting a compatible phone with Band 66. Me and you seem to be taking the prudent course and seeing where this goes. Ultimately with the new spectrum, you might not have to have Band 66.

Despite what I said, in your case I'd rather wait. Unless that phone is burning a hole in your rear end with the battery issues. With the spectrum purchase from Videotron, lets see where that goes, not only for iPhone users, but for Android users as well. Plus our One Plus 5 users and their issues with Band 66.
 
 08-14-2017 05:49 PM
qag01
 
Originally posted by Driver8666:
iPhone users will get to dictate where LTE (spectrum and Band 66) goes with Freedom. Battery going south would be one reason I'd replace a phone, especially one where I can't remove and replace the battery. If you can't access the new spectrum (Band 7 I believe) with an iPhone, that purchase will have been a waste of money. All iPhones are considered "legacy devices". Same goes with legacy Android devices. Anything on Freedom will work with an Android, but iPhones are another ballgame altogether.

If my iPhone 6S Plus had Band 66 on it and it didn't work, there would be hell to raise. You'd have conclusive proof Freedom only lets it's devices on Band 66. Come December, I don't think that's going to matter much, and we can get rid of carrier branding. I was considering an S8, but I hate Samsungs with a passion. I tried one out in the ScotiaBank Plaza here in Toronto a couple of weeks ago when Samsung had one of their pop ups going, but "passed" on it (and yes I had my 6S Plus with me). I was using an Asus ZE552KL, but I've had so many issues with Android 6.0 and 7, that it's making a trip back up to service in October, after it bootlooped on me and I'm actually too lazy to fix it myself. By the way, it's the 4th time it's been up there, since about April of this year (purchased in November of 2016). With my iPhone? Zero issues. Not one. Plus if I have an issue with it, all I need to do is go to the Eaton Centre in Toronto and not have to mail it in, insure it for twice the amount of the phone, and pay out the *** in postage.

Another thing is that I don't have to wait for the manufacturer to release a patch or update to my phone. It all comes from iTunes. Apple pushes out the patch to all their devices, irregardless of what network they are on (if I'm wrong correct me, but Apples patches take precedence over carrier branding). Google does too on the Pixel and whatever else they have floating around. Manufacturers are a bit slow in applying security updates. This was another point in me finally drinking the milk and eating the cookies. Everyone has their own preferences, and everyone is entitled to their own opinions.

Getting a device completely unlocked from the get-go is the only way to go, or was the only way to go. WiFi calling is not happening soon, so I can forget about that. Band 66 issues are well known on non Freedom devices as you know.

Everyone jumped on getting a compatible phone with Band 66. Me and you seem to be taking the prudent course and seeing where this goes. Ultimately with the new spectrum, you might not have to have Band 66.

Despite what I said, in your case I'd rather wait. Unless that phone is burning a hole in your rear end with the battery issues. With the spectrum purchase from Videotron, lets see where that goes, not only for iPhone users, but for Android users as well. Plus our One Plus 5 users and their issues with Band 66.

I just want to clear something up here. Freedom is not blocking unlocked B66 devices from their network. It is Qualcomm who neglected some very important items in the modem configuration files. There is a user around here that was able to get his unlocked Moto G5 plus working on the LTE without any problems by modifying that file.

Sent from my Z957 using HoFo mobile app
 
 08-14-2017 05:59 PM
Driver8666
 
Originally posted by qag01:
I just want to clear something up here. Freedom is not blocking unlocked B66 devices from their network. It is Qualcomm who neglected some very important items in the modem configuration files. There is a user around here that was able to get his unlocked Moto G5 plus working on the LTE without any problems by modifying that file.

Sent from my Z957 using HoFo mobile app


Then that's completely different. You'd think Qualcomm would at least have all their wits about them.

Like I said before, Band 7 first then 66.
 
 08-14-2017 08:11 PM
 hkalltheway
 
Originally posted by qag01:
I just want to clear something up here. Freedom is not blocking unlocked B66 devices from their network. It is Qualcomm who neglected some very important items in the modem configuration files. There is a user around here that was able to get his unlocked Moto G5 plus working on the LTE without any problems by modifying that file.

Sent from my Z957 using HoFo mobile app


How can you then explain why a galaxy s8 with the CSC set to GLW, which also has a Qualcomm chip, has no issues with LTE connectivity? That very same phone, with the CSC switched to something else begins to show issues?
 
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